Steven F. Hayward was interviewed by Peter Robinson of the Hoover Institution in Stanford, CA, about environmental issues, the progress that has been made, and the Index of Environmental Iinicators: 2009 Report.

Steven Hayward challenges the established narrative of environmentalism, beginning with the notion that the earth is fragile and that we have little time to save it from environmental catastrophe.

He deconstructs the case for global warming (including "cap and trade" plans to limit greenhouse gas emissions and the new EPA "endangerment finding" on CO2 ) and speaks to the challenges faced by poor countries as they seek to modernize and at the same time reduce the pollution that has historically accompanied modernization.

Finally, he offers his insights into the deep structure of environmentalism that substitutes a human apocalypse for a religious one.